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zelgadissan · May 26, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Take away loving the Vanquisher's Chest and I'm 100% completely with Kook.

BTW my main is a PvE Mesmer and I wouldn't really like most of the changes for him. Trust me, I appreciate the Mesmer love because it's rare and far between, but I'd rather not play with people who don't understand what he can do in PvE anyway

Although I would love to see [power flux] give you the 2 energy regen that your opponent loses maybe instead of 4 degen on him, kind of like an energy/interrupt version of [life transfer]. Probably would have to raise the recharge though.

Konig Des Todes · May 26, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

First, I must say, wow to the time it took to do this.

About the realm of Kormir, one exists, its called the Domain of Anguish *still very effected by Abaddon and Mmallyx*

I like the Favor of the Gods title idea, as that is not really grindable and cannot be bought. I like the vanquisher chest idea, although not needed, but the reward for vanquishing SHOULD be increased. Triple the amount of gold? *and not some cheesy weekend event for that*. I also like the cartographer chest and % ideas.

Also like the quest idea, however, change the EotN place to get the quests to the Scything pool, for Factions, I think Master Togo in Tahnakai Temple is better, and for Nightfall, maybe add another Statue to Kormir and have that avatar give the quests. Dragon statue doesn't fit with NF and it would be easier to give existing NPCs the quests.

The other non-skill ideas I agree with as well. I see nothing wrong with them.

Some skills I disagree with, some I agree with. It's about half and half and I'm too lazy right now to list all of those I disagree with. I will say that changing all those skills to how you say will change GW, for better or worse, and would not be hell if they all changed like that.

One skill that seems too overpowered with your idea, is Avatar of Grenth, I'd rather see it returned to how it was originally *removed enchantments per hit*. There are other skills I disagree with, but they are too numerous for me to sort through again.

Hodgie · May 26, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Some of the changes you have suggested could completely ruin the current meta.

Swift Thief · May 26, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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*FoW/UW changed so they are unfarmable. (this is to protect the challenge associated with these areas)

No that would be a horrible decision to make.

Gregslot · May 26, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Well, thanks for remembering what this forum used to be like.
But some ideas are kind of an absurd.

Div · May 26, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

If only Anet would actually listen to its community...

Kokuyougan · May 26, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Avatar of Grenth is unblockable for enchanted foes, that being the ONLY effect. You're change says to make it unblockable altogether...To me, that makes no sense.

Steps_Descending · May 27, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

So that is your perfect GW Necrid? Looks nice.
By the way, that thread is a blessing, really a pretty good idea you had there NEcrid. The real GW looks much better after seeing your version.

Back on topic, you are forgetting they are focussing on GW2 and to quote someone : "90% of the ideas are overpowered" 4% are unneeded and 3% unrealistic (caugh! unfarmable elite areas! caugh!).

DarkNecrid · May 27, 2008, 04:35 AM // 04:35

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just because a profession is broken, doesn't mean you should then set it on fire and piss on it >_>

oic.

So I made it ridiculously not fun (as in, for everyone) because you're not willing to adapt to your class having a mechanic that is broken.

kk then.

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farming is not a challenge no matter what build you use unless you purposely use a build that used to challenge you.

I didn't say it was or wasn't a challenge, I said a build that doesn't have Shadowform (especially the new one that a retarded monkey could use) requires a bit more skill than one without.

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No it really doesnt. You do NOT have to memorize a skill. Every time you load the skill it flashes in plain english( or any other language the game is set for)
That x skill has been changed.
If you dont see that thats your problem.

I'm assuming you don't actually make builds or look for the next best thing and just wiki everything. I'm not talking creative builds either, I mean builds that actually work and don't suck, when they get that new update going now you're going to have to look back and make sure you're thinking of a PvP version sometimes.

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As in lets say randomly skill update 6 months from now and I look back and I go "time to theorycraft a new uber build" and I add a skill that 6 months before was made into a PvP version and it was sorta avoided, and I think it'll own in this new 6 month later skill update except since the PvP skill was sorta avoided I forgot it was made into a crappier version and OH GOD NO MY THEORYCRAFTED BUILD DOESN'T WORK. It's annoying.

Also, the monk feel thing is pretty big.

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Again your problem. You keep stating that you like a challenge so dont use SF and use a build that gives you a challenge.Its YOUR choice on what build YOU use not ours. No one is forcing you to use it.

Again, I'm a PvPer. I play by the rules of the game, but that doesn't mean I like it. I'm not going to gimp myself.

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Youre right shadowstepping doesnt remove ones ability to kite thats part of my point.
Why nerf them if they really arent that powerful? Kinda contradicting yourself there.

You misread, it does remove ones ability to kite. Because no matter what you have that guaranteed method of being right next to someone no matter the distance as long as its in spell casting range.

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Thats a matter of opinion. Mostly yours.
From what ive been reading very few people think your nerfs are a good idea.

Congrats you figured out that it was my opinion. d^^ Maybe next time I'll add "in my opinion"...maybe...

It was fairly obvious this is my opinion, otherwise I wouldn't have made the topic.

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And you will never be able to nerf gimmicks.
People will just find a new gimmick and run with it.

Yepppp, not doubting that at all.

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Making every class a semi imbagon doesnt remove the problem of imbagon, just renames it to imbaX.

Again.

I'm saying this again......

Monsters would be changed to actually make a challenge, even versus these skill changes, in Hard Mode.

I thought I made that FAIRLY CLEAR in the first section.

EDIT: Don't think I'm UPSET at you or anything, just frustrated people overlooked that part. I bold'd it this time...

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About the realm of Kormir, one exists, its called the Domain of Anguish *still very effected by Abaddon and Mmallyx*

Yeah, someone said this earlier! I didn't know it was considered Kormir's realm. :s

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I like the Favor of the Gods title idea, as that is not really grindable and cannot be bought. I like the vanquisher chest idea, although not needed, but the reward for vanquishing SHOULD be increased. Triple the amount of gold? *and not some cheesy weekend event for that*. I also like the cartographer chest and % ideas.

Thanks! Yeah. I think the chest is a good idea though. The gold/xp rewards are kinda blah anyways. I'd rather get a guaranteed good drop (and the chest would only have GOOD drops) than 200 more gold.

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Also like the quest idea, however, change the EotN place to get the quests to the Scything pool, for Factions, I think Master Togo in Tahnakai Temple is better, and for Nightfall, maybe add another Statue to Kormir and have that avatar give the quests. Dragon statue doesn't fit with NF and it would be easier to give existing NPCs the quests.

One of the ancient dragons who is probably going to rise and own us in GW2 has his body in Elona. There's ancient dragons everywhere, so I think it fits!!

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Some of the changes you have suggested could completely ruin the current meta.

If you're talking about PvE: good.
If you're talking about PvP: Dervsmite is imba for a couple reasons, namely the fact you have 3 Deep Wounds (free 100 damage, mind you) going off every 3 seconds, plus 100+ damage on top of that from the attack, and such. It wouldn't break the meta, it'd remove one of the leading damage dealers from the meta, which is good considering Izzy nerfed defenses out the butt.

Unless you're running super rawr defense YAYAYA it's like Dervsmite vs piece of paper.

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No that would be a horrible decision to make.

It would make Ecto prices go up because there would be fewer of them coming in, with a high demand. Ectos would take skill to get, and these places would again be considered the true "Elite" areas they are considered to be.

There is tons of other places to farm, especially with most of my changes. Go farm em.

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Avatar of Grenth is unblockable for enchanted foes, that being the ONLY effect. You're change says to make it unblockable altogether...To me, that makes no sense.

It's a PvE change, to make it look a little bit better. Mind you, a ton of people in PvE think [Avatar of Balthazar] is actually good.....so something to make it look a little bit better. Just another option. Maybe draw them away from it. Maybe.

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Back on topic, you are forgetting they are focussing on GW2 and to quote someone : "90% of the ideas are overpowered" 4% are unneeded and 3% unrealistic (caugh! unfarmable elite areas! caugh!).

Yes, which is why I don't expect even 15% of this to ever happen. The only things I expect to happen is the PvP balance (Izzy's already mentioned looking into it) to some degree, the Marketplace (still getting worked on in the .dat files...), and MAYBE if you're lucky...a new area. That you have to pay for.

A year from now.

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If only Anet would actually listen to its community...

omg a god walking amongst mere mortals posted in my topic....

*blush*

Hailey Anne · May 27, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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